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Getafix
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posted 10-26-98 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Getafix     
I think this has been asked before but i can't find the topic.
Can Sodium Palladium Chloride be used instead pf Palladium Chloride in the Benzoquinone/Wacker?
Somebody i know received some from the Formulary after ordering PdCl2. It looks pretty much the same.

-Getafix

boybee
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posted 10-26-98 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for boybee     
DON'T DO IT!

Lets just say that I over heard several grad school students speaking on this subject, that even after they scalled up the Na2PdCL4 so that there was the same amount of Pd in solution...

IE - 1.8g PdCl2 = 2.8g NaPdCl4 = same amount of Pd .....

The reaction yielded ~40% ketone (by mole) when the student clearly expected +75% conversion.

The student was noticably pissed at the outcome, because the only variable that was changed between 3 previuosly successful attampts and this run, was the SodiumPdCl ....

Now having a little salt in the soultion is prolly the culprit... Notice that the only CATION in solution should be the Pd ... Having the Na+ in there to could possibly impede the reaction, due to Na+ 's greater charge density .....

HUMMMMMMMM.

-bb

boybee
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posted 10-26-98 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for boybee     
DON'T DO IT!

Lets just say that I over heard several grad school students speaking on this subject, that even after they scalled up the Na2PdCL4 so that there was the same amount of Pd in solution...

IE - 1.8g PdCl2 = 2.8g NaPdCl4 = same amount of Pd .....

The reaction yielded ~40% ketone (by mole) when the student clearly expected +75% conversion.

The student was noticably pissed at the outcome, because the only variable that was changed between 3 previuosly successful attampts and this run, was the SodiumPdCl ....

Now having a little salt in the soultion is prolly the culprit... Notice that the only CATION in solution should be the Pd ... Having the Na+ in there to could possibly impede the reaction, due to Na+ 's greater charge density .....

HUMMMMMMMM.

-bb

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